"In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." –John 16:33

Month: November 2015 Page 1 of 2

Thankful for Thanksgiving

Carl at Washington special meeting (Spanish)We had a great Thanksgiving. We missed Christian a lot, but we also talked to him a lot and like I said in previous posts, he spent the holiday with very good people. This was one of those Thanksgivings that was unexpectedly encouraging and helpful. We went to a church event on Friday where we saw good friends from my college days, made the acquaintance of some new folks and just had a great chance to talk in an inspiring setting. We plan to make our way back up there again.

One of the highlights of the trip was our friend Carl who was out to Washing for a round of special meetings of our church. We got to hear him preach in Spanish and to say that what he had to say was something I needed to hear is a wild understatement. And he was not the only one who had good things for me to hear. We knew we would miss our North Carolina friends, but we are amazed how frequently–at least daily–we think of reasons to remember them to each other.

On Sunday, we take my parents to church in the morning. When there are Gospel meetings, we take them Sunday afternoon, too. This Sunday was the last Gospel meeting before the holidays and we were surprised when our friends Kirk and Melanie from Charlotte walked in. It is a small world and it is nice to be reminded of the gifts of friendships we receive day in and day out. It is by the grace of God we are given time and opportunity to realize how good we have it just because of the fellowship we are in.

Betty Blonde #435 – 03/18/2010
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Too much food followed by too much food

Sunday lunch after meeting at Juan Colorado

Our Thanksgiving was super nice. We, as good Americans, ate too much the whole weekend. I, for one, only got one work out in over. As a tilter at Windmills, I have hope to remedy that starting now, but that does not mitigate the fact my belt went out another notch. It was great to have Kelly up her. We missed having Christian a lot, but I think he was well cared for by Ralph and Barbie.

Betty Blonde #434 – 03/17/2010
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Christian stays in Arizona for Thanksgiving

Kelly comes home for Thanksgiving 2015Our friends Ralph and Barbie invited Christian over for Thanksgiving this year. He planned to come up here to spend the weekend with us,  but was just too slammed with work to make the trip. Lorena, Kelly and I will have a full Thanksgiving weekend and Christian will be well cared for, but this is the second year in a row when everyone was not together for our favorite holiday. Kelly, of course, is working on her research between petting Kiwi, the remaining twin cat sister. It is going to busy and nice, but we really do wish we could be with Christian. We have decided we will all try to head south to Arizona for Christmas. I hope we can make that work.

Betty Blonde #433 – 03/15/2010
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Wrong about the crusades, but the word is getting out

It is sad so many people have so many wrong ideas about the crusades. I found another article, wonderfully written, from 2005 that sets the record straight. Again. This paragraph from the article describes the problem:

Misconceptions about the Crusades are all too common. The Crusades are generally portrayed as a series of holy wars against Islam led by power-mad popes and fought by religious fanatics. They are supposed to have been the epitome of self-righteousness and intolerance, a black stain on the history of the Catholic Church in particular and Western civilization in general. A breed of proto-imperialists, the Crusaders introduced Western aggression to the peaceful Middle East and then deformed the enlightened Muslim culture, leaving it in ruins. For variations on this theme, one need not look far. See, for example, Steven Runciman’s famous three-volume epic, History of the Crusades, or the BBC/A&E documentary, The Crusades, hosted by Terry Jones. Both are terrible history yet wonderfully entertaining.

That is so wrong in so many ways as explained next:

So what is the truth about the Crusades? Scholars are still working some of that out. But much can already be said with certainty. For starters, the Crusades to the East were in every way defensive wars. They were a direct response to Muslim aggression—an attempt to turn back or defend against Muslim conquests of Christian lands.

Christians in the eleventh century were not paranoid fanatics. Muslims really were gunning for them. While Muslims can be peaceful, Islam was born in war and grew the same way. From the time of Mohammed, the means of Muslim expansion was always the sword. Muslim thought divides the world into two spheres, the Abode of Islam and the Abode of War. Christianity—and for that matter any other non-Muslim religion—has no abode. Christians and Jews can be tolerated within a Muslim state under Muslim rule. But, in traditional Islam, Christian and Jewish states must be destroyed and their lands conquered.

The author goes on to explain in more detail to explain what we actually know about all this. It is a great read that makes a compelling case. I highly recommend it.

Betty Blonde #432 – 03/12/2010
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Are there no more American Cyrus’s

I just read a great article on why Truman characterized himself as Cyrus when he was talking to Israel at the time they were about to become a sovereign country again. It made me wonder whether we have seen our last American President Cyrus as the most recent administration has certainly moved away from that position. It also made me wonder how many people might understand the reference. I think that is most probably a diminished set of our population and even more diminished in Europe.

Betty Blonde #431 – 03/11/2010
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The mind-brain problem

In 1994 a secular guy named David Chalmers, then at University of Arizona, got famous because he characterized something that had been known and discussed for centuries. He described a problem James Trefil, a Physics professor at George Mason University described this way:

It is the only major question in the sciences that we don’t even know how to ask.

In a couple of papers, he described why the mind-brain (spirit) problem is no where close to being answered in any meaningful way. There is nothing religious in this article nor is David Chalmers friendly in any way toward Christianity–he is an atheist. Much deeper thinkers than he had said this same thing year after year for many years, but for some reason, he got famous for it. Here are his articles and a lengthy 2015 article on the subject in the Guardian.

  • The Hard Problem (1994)
  • Consciousness and It’s Place in Nature (2003)
  • An article from 2015 on why there had been virtually no progress on the problem even though we know a lot more about the brain (what part of the game attracts us to gambling, the part of the brain that causes different kinds of problems, etc.
  • They even did a TED talk on this thing.

I even wrote about it in my blog.

It caused an uproar in the psychology, philosophy and neuroscience worlds, maybe because he did such a good job of describing the problem. People have been trying to find ways to work on it much more aggressively ever since. I say they have been trying to find ways to work on it because they are not really working on the problem itself because it is not amenable to science. They are just trying to figure out a way to work on it.

This is all interesting stuff.

Betty Blonde #430 – 03/10/2010
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People you least suspect think about stuff deeply

I got into a great conversation about “being” with a couple of middle age guys at work. I never would have suspected they even thought about stuff, but they were both well versed. The son of one of the guys was taking what sounded to be like a very good class on epistemology at a public high school in Hillsboro. The conversation was a welcome relief from the goofiness of Kelly’s doctoral level Sociology class up at University of Washington.

Kelly’s professor made the statement in class that “Modern intellectuals are not concerned with the origins of the categories of understanding. It is not a relevant debate anymore.”

“Categories of Understanding” is a subject engaged by Aristotle (at least the categories part) and Kant. It well may be true that this subject is not of a great amount of relevance to the subject at hand, but to state as a fact something that “modern intellectuals” do in general is pompous posturing to the extreme. Is the professor so ignorant as to think she can speak for modern intellectuals. That kind of statement is hard to take coming from a real intellectual, but it was made by, of all things, a Sociology professor. There might be a few true intellectuals out there who are Sociology professors (Rodney Stark comes to mind), but they have to be few and far between. Maybe the “modern” modifier puts it into a different category where “modern” intellectuals really are not intellectuals at all. I guess I should give them the benefit of a doubt.

Betty Blonde #429 – 03/09/2010
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Another great reason to be in Oregon–Gladys

Ken and Gladys at Noodles and Company 2015We count Gladys as the fifth grandparent of Christian and Kelly. We are really thankful to have the chance to live so close to Glad. She has been a fixture in our lives since forever. She and Lorena went down to their Wilsonville manicure salon this morning, then we made our way to the new Noodles and Company here in town for a (late) Birthday lunch. We are especially thankful that she was able to make it all the way out to Raleigh for Thanksgiving and for the kids graduation from NCSU when Grandma Sarah could not travel. Thanks Glad. We love you.

Betty Blonde #428 – 03/08/2010
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Kids are capable, even at a very young age

The video of this little kid making coffee is just awesome. It brought back memories of our kids as I am sure it did for all parents who see it. One of the things that we remember about when the kids were very little is that they were interested and able to learn just about anything thrown at them. The process the kids went through to learn how to read was just amazing to watch. We had no idea what we were doing when we tried to teach them, but they really wanted to learn, loved to learn, had a crazy amount of patience (in that little kid, “do it again, do it again sort of way) and there was GREAT joy when they got it.

Betty Blonde #427 – 03/05/2010
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Revisiting Xubuntu

XubuntuLast night, I spent a couple of hours replacing Windows 10 with Xubuntu 15.04 on my most powerful computer at home. I currently work on three projects where Xubuntu is just better for my development needs than Windows. I had changed my cheap/travel laptop to Xubuntu 14.04 and was happy enough with that, that I switched my server/archiving computer from Windows 8.1 to Xubuntu 15.04. There were no monster differences that I could tell between Xubuntu 14.04 and 15.04, neither of which is the latest version (15.10), but every time I try a new version it is incrementally better than the previous version. I am not sure whether the work that I do has morphed into stuff well suited to be done on Linux or the tools and quality of Xubuntu has gotten better, but the whole endeavor has now arrived at a threshold where the way I use the computer is better accommodated by Xubuntu than by Windows and profoundly better than a Mac. Everything just works.

The main tool I hear does not have an equivalent in Linux is Microsoft Project, but I never use that. In addition, I cannot use my browser of choice (Opera) to watch certain kinds of encrypted videos from on of the major video providers, but I could facilitate that by viewing them with the Chrome browser. I am sure it will be available in Opera soon, too. The only computer in the house now that runs Windows is the one Lorena uses for schoolwork. I think we will leave that one as it is.

P.S. Both my buddy John (serious developer of cross-platform, internet-centric code) and Christian (my Electrical Engineering PhD candidate and very math-centric son) both run Debian stable (the Linux distro that used to underlie Ubuntu) on their main computers. I was going to do that, too, but decided I better stick with what I know.

Betty Blonde #426 – 03/04/2010
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Death, terrorism, Lorena’s visit to OHSU and melancholy

Lorena sent a picture of her stitches from the work on her jaw yesterday. I was going to put it up here, but it is cold and wind outside and I kind of want to sleep inside tonight. Right after she got back from Oregon Health Sciences University where the work was done–actually, it was nothing too big–we heard Amy, one of our friends from North Carolina, died after a bout with cancer. She was ten years younger than me and a great person. We were saddened, but thankful for a difficult life well lived. That, coupled with all the crazy terrorist attacks and belligerence that continues to grow around the world (as was manifested again in Paris) has put us into a pensive and admittedly melancholy mood. One wonders what the world will be like for our kids and for their kids. Will a life two generations from now be even recognizable to people of my generation. The funny deal is that even though we are sad for the death of our friend, her passing has been more of a comfort than a burden because Jesus is her friend. That is no small hope in that and an encouragement to those of us left behind.

Betty Blonde #425 – 03/03/2010
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World War III and Lorena’s trip to OHSU

Lorena's OHSU visitLorena had surgery about a year ago at the Duke University Hospital in Durham, North Carolina. Everything went very nicely and now she is back into a dentist/doctor team here in Oregon to finish up. There is nothing that is any fun about this kind of thing. It is uncomfortable (fortunately there has not been a lot of pain), expensive and a hassle. Oregon Health Sciences University has a wonderful hospital but its location and the way it is laid out makes it horrible difficult to navigate. I know their are topological/geographical and historic reasons for all that, but that does not diminish the hassle when you do not feel good and are trying to get to an appointment, not to mention getting back to your car.

We have had lots and lots of things we needed to just get done before we can settle back into a routine. This is just another one of those things. Lorena has one more visit after this, probably right after the first of the year. Sometime in this whole mix, we want to buy a house. Maybe then, we will get back to a non chaotic routine. But, then again, maybe not. When I get to thinking things are too chaotic I think of what it must have been like living in Europe in the late 1930’s and early 1940’s. Our lives really have minor challenges. It could be much worse.

Betty Blonde #424 – 03/02/2010
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Struggling finding the right house

Lorena at McDonaldsLorena and I actually drove out to Mulino to look at an old schoolhouse on a little less than an acre of land to decide whether we wanted to buy and remodel it into a house. It was very, very cool, but it would have been more work than we wanted. We hate this waiting, especially with the holidays almost here. If we were at a different stage in life, maybe we would have done it, but now is not the time. So there is nothing to do but keep looking until we find something that is close enought to “right” that we can pull the trigger. In the meantime, we work a lot on the weekends, go to McDonalds before breakfast on Sunday–no down side to their sausage burrito–and go back to work on Monday.

Betty Blonde #423 – 03/01/2010
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Ketchup or salsa? (or is ketchup salsa?)

Lorena and I have very busy lives. She takes two classes at the community college (Geology and Business Law). I do consulting work with a couple of companies in the evenings while she is either in class or studying. So what does that have to do with salsa and ketchup? Not much other than that we often eat at our desks. I noticed a couple of ketchup stains on my desk and thought of that great divide in America, partly due to the influx of Mexicans here in the US, but probably mostly due to the fact that most Americans are switching from that great American condiment to its spicy competitor. Of course, if there were any stains on Lorena’s desk (that is my story and it is best that I maintain that position) they would be of the salsa variety. All of this to get to the point that it dawned on me that I now only eat ketchup about one time for every time I eat salsa.

Lorena said, “You are so American” when she saw me putting ketchup on my hamburger last night. It is not true.

Betty Blonde #422 – 02/26/2010
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Talking about God at graduate school

Commie ProfessorA couple of talks with Kelly and Christian the last couple of days reminded me of the old Commie Professor posts from their undergrad days. Christian has a brilliant cohort in his PhD program who is a little older than most of the other graduate students, probably in his mid-thirties.  He presented at the same conference as Christian earlier this week and was able to hang out with the Arizona State group in the evening, something he normally does not get to do because he also has a full time job and a family, so he does not have time. He is a very serious guy and brought up that he started to understand better why free will is not incompatible with an omnipotent God. It is nice to find fellow travelers in the bastions of “rationality” common to secular universities.

The same day, Kelly messaged me from her graduate level Sociology class. Suffice it to say the conversation was barely coherent. The condescension is the hardest thing to take, especially from people handicapped by the morally relativistic indoctrination that is preeminent in colleges of all stripes, but especially within the liberal arts departments of secular universities. You can see our conversation below the comic strip.

Betty Blonde #421 – 02/25/2010
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Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
durkheim is fascinating because he sees the same thing that we see
 
he sees the world
 
and comes to the opposite conclusion from the exact same facts
 
Kelly J • Mon, 12:21 PM
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
I don’t know how Kant can argue for moral behavior without divinity
 
that argument is flawed
 
he says you can adhere to morality without divinity, but morality doesn’t exist without divinity
 
i’m having a great time with my response to Durkheim
 
i’m so excited
 
everyone in that class is silly
 
seriously they are
 
i’m beyond hyped
 
they essentially told me that religion was a nice panacea for people
 
and you can live “at peace” with subjectivism and religion
 
slash spirituality
 
so i said “how can you do that”
 
Kelly J • Mon, 12:38 PM
 
 
 
Hahaha!!! Don’t go to high, but that is what I felt when I realized all the atheist, skeptics and scoffers were truly fools.
 
Mon, 12:38 PM
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
“that is diluted that completely cancels the point of religion”
 
Kelly J • Mon, 12:38 PM
 
 
 
YES!!!!
 
Cools
 
What did they say?
 
Mon, 12:38 PM
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
Durkheim makes two points
 
Kelly J • Mon, 12:38 PM
 
 
 
What are they?
 
Mon, 12:38 PM
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
well he asks two things
 
Kelly J • Mon, 12:39 PM
 
 
 
You nailed it exactly.
 
Mon, 12:39 PM
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
how can ‘divine reason’ which i am interpreting to be ‘objective truth’
 
give rise to so many varying human worldviews, if it truly exists and is truly immutable
 
and
 
Kelly J • Mon, 12:39 PM
 
 
 
There is no point, even to life and existence, if there is no God and religion.
 
Mon, 12:39 PM
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
how can we believe in divine reason if it can’t be scientifically tested
 
the last one is a softball
 
scientific reason/logic is in itself an immaterial idea
 
you can’t use it to prove your argument if your argument says it doesn’t really exist
 
but that’s hard too because you have to use reason to say that
 
when can you not use reason
 
Kelly J • Mon, 12:40 PM
 
 
 
Yes. The funny deal is that it CAN be tested, but science is not the only domain for the discovery of truth. They ALWAYS talk like only science can reveal truth when in reality the only way you can make a case for the ability of science to say ANYTHING is through philosopy.
 
Mon, 12:41 PM
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
he also says that ideas are purely immaterial and then admits that they may originate in reality, but he can’t have it both ways
 
Kelly J • Mon, 12:41 PM
 
 
 
Hahaha! That is great.
Mon, 12:42 PM
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
Reasoning itself is dependent on the reality of the immaterial so you can’t say that the immaterial is not real because reason itself is immaterial
 
Kelly J • Mon, 12:42 PM
 
 
 
Cool.
 
Mon, 12:42 PM
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
i read that article i found online which helped a lot
 
Kelly J • Mon, 12:42 PM
 
 
 Send it to me.
 
Mon, 12:42 PM
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
saying that he mischaracterizes Judaism and Christianity
 
which both explicitly reject totenism and idolatry
 
(Islam kind of does too, and Buddhism is pretty ascetic which also doesn’t fit into his argument)
 
In Judaism and Christianity God reveals himself in solitude for the most part
 
it is highly personal
 
this rejects the social nature of religion where people find God through “collective feeling”
 
which is what Durkheim says the true nature of every religion is
 
how do i respond to the ‘religion gives comfort so its ok’ argument – i find that extremely condescending
 
Kelly J • Mon, 12:49 PM
 
 
 
Yes it is. Religion gives NO comfort to those who do acknowledge God as God.
 
Tell them Christianity is not a comforting religion to those who don’t bow their knee. Neither is Islam and Judasim.
 
Mon, 12:52 PM
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
does this make sense
 
Why adhere to anything if it is not true? If it is just a myth society has created to comfort itself? By this reason, the religious are willfully ignorant of reality and the point of religion is completely moot. Religion gives no true comfort to those who cannot acknowledge religious truth as objective truth. It is condescending to hold true to the idea that the immaterial is false while allowing that religion gives comfort to people and must be tolerated.  The basis of this argument is founded on some subjective morality, and imposes that morality on others.
 
Kelly J • Mon, 12:52 PM
 
 
 
The objective truth described in Christianity is extremely harsh to people who work against it.
 
Very nicely said.
 
Are you writing a response to something?
 
Mon, 12:53 PM
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
yes
 
Kelly J • Mon, 12:53 PM
 
 
 
Will you flunk if you say the wrong thing?
 
Mon, 12:53 PM
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
nah it’s a grad course
 
she may go on my committee
 
Kelly J • Mon, 12:54 PM
 
 
 
Does she hate you?
 
Mon, 12:54 PM
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
i don’t mind pushing back a little
 
no
 
Kelly J • Mon, 12:54 PM
 
 
Hahaha. That is a good reason. She will pass you.
 
Well that is good. It also might make your quals easier.
 
Mon, 12:55 PM
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
she won’t sit in on my quals until my dissertation
 
several years down the road
 
Kelly J • Mon, 12:55 PM
 

The presentation at Asilomar went well

Eating lunch at Boston Market in Cupertino after meetingChristian gave his paper at the Asilomar Conference on Signals, Systems and Computers in Pacific Grove California yesterday. It was a scary deal being the first time he has done it, but it went well. Now all he has to do is enjoy the rest of his conference, visit a buddy at UCLA on the way home and get ready to go on to the next thing.

The picture at the left is one I took after church when we ate lunch at Boston Market in Cupertino before Christian dropped me off at the airport to fly home to Oregon. We had a great time. It was especially good to be “stuck” in a car for twelve hours or so just to talk stuff over. This is a trip we will remember.

Betty Blonde #420 – 02/24/2010
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On the way to San Jose

Christian and I drove up from Tempe to Gilroy, California yesterday. It was a nice drive. The purpose of the drive is to get Christian to Asilomoar to a conference so he can give a paper on Monday. He worked on some of the graphs in his presentation on the way up and we talked about everything under the sun. It dawned on me (again for the gazillionth time) that there is a whole lot of nothing between Bakersfield and Sacramento, California traveling up I-5.

Another thing I did not know is that the Rosebowl, NASA-JPL and The Art Center College of Design are a stones throw away from each other in Pasadena. The reason I know that now is I drank two of those really big bottles of Mountain Dew and had an immediate need to visit a restroom right about when we got to that part of Pasadena. Then we drove around not finding a bathroom for long enough to be able to make those observations.

Betty Blonde #419 – 02/23/2010
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Flying to Tempe for a drive to Asilomar

Christian is scheduled to deliver a conference paper on his research at the Asilomar Conference on Signals, Systems and Computers on Monday. I do not know what is the title of his paper, but it is heavy on Information Theory (see here, here and here) and has to do with radio communication, but applies to everything under the sun, probably especially the whole Internet of Things meme. I took a half day off today so I can fly down to Arizona and drive with Christian up to Pacific Grove, California, the home of the Asilomar Conference grounds. We could have flown, but he is not yet old enough to rent a car to get around and he also wants to stop in LA to visit a buddy from North Carolina State who is there to get a PhD at UCLA in Math.

We are looking forward to the trip, but it is going to be a marathon practice session with me driving and him delivering his paper a gazillion times until he has it down cold. I want to at least an inkling of understanding about his work, but I do not hold out much hope because it is pretty dense. His paper will go into the conference proceedings, but he wants to add some new insights into it and turn it into his first refereed, first-author journal article. I need to remember to take some pictures on the way there.

Betty Blonde #418 – 02/22/2010
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What to do next, living-wise

Lorena and I struggle a little right now with a decision about where to live. We have thought about heading up to Seattle to be closer to Kelly. We went up there last week to see her. Washington is a beautiful and amazing state. Seattle is a beautiful and amazing city. We love all the water of the Puget Sound. There are lots of good restaurants and stores. There are lots of reasons to move to Seattle, but there is the down-side, too. The politics of Seattle are not quite as crazy and deeply immoral as the politics of Portland, but they are pretty crazy and immoral and they have that nasty little anarchist thing going for them, too. Kind of like Eugene, but bigger. We definitely could live there, but we could live a lot of other places.

We actually took the train from Vancouver to Seattle and then an Uber from the train station to Kelly’s apartment. The whole trip was an absolute joy. We actually think we could live happily anywhere from Vancouver up past Seattle and anywhere on the Sound. The tax situation is profoundly better in Washington than Oregon and so is the economy. Still, we have mixed feelings. We really are Oregonians heart and soul. Well, that and Mexican. Everyone we asked said the Mexican food was horrible throughout Seattle, but I cannot believe that is entirely true although I have to admit it would have been very gracious to call the Mexican food we ate Friday night even mediocre.

We are truly up in the air on all this. We have thought it would be good to have at least a half acre and maybe even an acre or two. But we also think, “Why would we do that?” I ran into this article that talks about saving money in economically hard times. It struck a chord with me. We, personally, are not even close to being on hard times, but the article was compelling–it surely feels like economic hard times could arrive to the whole country very quickly. Add to that the fact that Kelly and Christian will probably not stay where they are much longer than it takes them to finish their degrees–maybe 3-4 years, and we are even more trepidatious about this decision of what to do. We want to be as close as is reasonable to our kids.

We are thinking about it. We have decided to keep looking and expand our thinking to include smaller houses on smaller lots in places where we can walk to grocery stores, schools, restaurants and the like. Lorena has always said she could be happy just about anywhere as long is she is less than fifteen minutes from a Costco and twenty minutes from a Trader Joe’s.

Betty Blonde #417 – 02/19/2010
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Kelly observing the human condition

Kelly often sits in a coffee shop to study during the day. She heard a conversation bewteen two late middle age ladies that gave her great joy. I thought it was fun. Here is our Instant Message conversation that described it all:


Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
oh my word
 
these two ladies are sitting next to me
 
they are like your age
 
Kelly J • 11:16 AM
 
 
 
And?
 
11:16 AM
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
they remind me of that youtube video i sent you once
 
they’re literally talking about pastries and baking shows
 
“do you watch that on the computers”
 
“on the ipad”
 
Kelly J • 11:16 AM
 
 
 
Cool! Hahaha!
 
11:17 AM
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
“elizabeth knows about this pastry i don’t think she can even pronounce the name but she says it is the best pastry she has ever tried”
 
literally a 10 minute conversation about this
 
Kelly J • 11:17 AM
 
 
 
Hahaha!
 
11:17 AM
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
“you know who will like this?”
 
“elizabeth”
 
“she’s so healthy!”
 
“i know i’m not healthy i don’t like healthy stuff like she does”
 
Kelly J • 56 mins
 
 
 
Hahaha?
 
56 mins
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
elizabeth is their mutual friend
 
i love these women
 
Kelly J • 56 mins
 
 
 
Yes
 
They are awesome.
 
56 mins
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
“it’s hair wash day”
 
“and then we gotta go pretend that we’re interested”
 
oh my word
 
these women are fantastic
 
Kelly J • 48 mins
 
 
 
Hahaha
 
48 mins
 
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
“I’M GOING TO HAVE COFFEE WITH MY OLD BOYFRIEND, STEVE WEST”
 
aaaahahaha i LOVE these women
 
he called her
 
she said “oh steve!! are you a grandpa yet?”
 
and then they chit chat
 
and she turns the phone off and tells her friend she’s going to have coffee with him
 
her friend says
 
“I can see that that was someone you really liked” “then tomorrow i’m going to have coffee with my old boyfriend TODD”
 
“well you like your old boyfriend bill”
 
“well he’s a criminal”
 
“he IS?”
 
Kelly J • 41 mins
 
 
 
With mom. Will text after lunch
 
41 mins
 
Kelly J Chapman (kjchapma@uw.edu)
 
 
“well everyone knows it!”
 
“he got away with everything – which is his STYLE”
 
Kelly J • 40 mins
 
 
 
Hahaha’ man I wish I was there!
 
28 mins

Betty Blonde #417 – 02/19/2010
Betty Blonde #417
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