"In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." –John 16:33

San Pedro Garza Garcia

Day: September 25, 2013

Mid-career Masters Degree: Can you get an Engineering Masters degree with a Bachelors degree in Business?

This is the second in a series of posts about how a mid-career Masters degree changed my life. I admire people who do an after work and weekends Masters degree so they can pay the rent and support the family, but I did not do it that way. I bailed out of my job and dived in full time after having spent ten years in the workforce.  The introductory post and index to all the other posts in the series is here.

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The title of this post in the series was a big impediment to me.  I believed it was not possible to go on to a Masters degree in engineering after earning a Bachelors degree in Business Administration.  I was wrong.  I should have understood this because I actually worked with a lady who went on to a Masters degree in Mechanical Engineering after earning a Bachelors degree in English.  She had to take a ton of what Dr. Johnson called leveling classes math and science class during a probationary period, but it took her less time and effort to do that than start over from scratch on a Bachelors degree in Engineering.  I have a friend who had no degree at all and made a dramatic shift from Christian ministry through a Bachelors degree in Civil Engineering, then on to a PhD in Biological and Agricultural Engineering.  I will tell his story in a second post.

“Use what you have and start now” is the advice I would give anyone with a Bachelors degree and wants to get a Masters degree at just about any point in their career.  What do I mean by that?  I have worked and talked with a lot of people in this situation. I believe that almost everyone underestimates their preparedness for moving on to the next academic level.  In my case, it took a series of conversations with Dr. Johnson to convince both that I could handle the academic load and that I was in a place to make a unique contribution to his program that would make my life at UTEP more interesting and rewarding.  He was right about it all.

So the issue is to identify those things that make you desirable to a Masters degree program and present them to the right person in the school you want to attend.  In the end, it is about people–you and them.  I wish someone would have told me this sooner, but maybe I would not have had such a good story to tell any sooner.  At any rate, I had no idea how to go about this until Dr. Johnson and I started talking.  Here is a list of things we used to get me in the program.  It is not long, but it was enough.

  • I had taken the math and most of the science I needed in an Associate and Bachelors degree
  • I spent ten years working in manufacturing facilities selling equipment and technology to solve essentially Industrial Engineering problems
  • I was an experienced C programmer
  • I had written technical articles in trade journals on the use of robots and vision systems in industry

In the end, we were able to set up a program that required me to take 4-5 leveling classes (Operations Research, Statistical Quality Control, and several others).  Dr. Johnson started a new laboratory we called the Machine Vision Applications Laboratory.  He got me a scholarship and found me a way to help him move technology into local (and eventually international) industry.  After that, it was easy to make the decision to move to UTEP.  My buddy, Curt and I drove down to Texas at the end of 1988.

So, first, figure out what you have and how to use it to get into the program you want.  I will tell a story in the next post of a good friend who did a mid-career change that is fairly breathtaking.  He thought he was starting from zero, but found a way to work his way into a truly amazing academic career that started from almost nothing and is about to end with a world class PhD.

Life at 58 years old

Day 765 of 1000

Dad in 1988Yesterday was my birthday.  I turned 58.  For some reason, I had more time to reflect on life this year than in years past.  Lorena and Kelly dug through a bunch of old photos and found one from almost exactly 25 years ago and put it up on Lorena’s Facebook account.  I think the picture might have gotten me into a reflective mood.  My father-in-law says that, for boys, the blood does not really start getting to their brain until they are about 25.  I think it was just about when this picture was taken that the blood started to get to my brain.  I was 32 or 33.  My buddy Curt in Tigard said it very well in a comment that went with the picture on Facebook.

He said, “Ken – those were the good old days; when we weren’t good and we weren’t old.”

Well said.  Those were the days when we knew what was right, but struggled mightily to do it.  It gave us joy to do what was right, but there were lots of temptations.  I awakened to the fact that this life and death struggle between right and following my own path would not end until I died, but it was worth it.  The temptations were still the temptations, but they were not worth it.  It was really quite a slow and gradual awakening for me and I started later than most.  It all started to occur at about the time I started my Masters degree.  After my Masters degree, I got married, we had two kids, and went through a pretty rough patch of career challenges.

By the grace of God, literally, these life circumstances kept me considering the difference between what was right and taking my own path.  I knew I was a different person when I walked into one of our church’s Gospel meetings in a new town when I was a little over 40 years old. I saw an old friend from my high school days who also knew what was right, but struggled with the implementation.  It dawned on me that we were both in the right place, trying to do the right thing.  I was filled with an overwhelming joy knowing that it was way more important to me now to do the right thing than to do what I wanted.  It was true for my friend, too. I actually wept.

Life is much better at age 58 than it was at age 33.  I do not think it does any good to say stuff like, “if I knew then what I know now, things would have been different.”  I did not know that stuff then, but I was on the path to learning it.  That is a good thing.  I cannot say there was not joy in my life back in those days.  There was.  Still I got hurt because of my own wantonness and other people did, too.  It could be said that my wantonness was not as bad as that of many others, but really, that is bogus.  It is also true that my wantonness was worse than that of many others.  Those are all things to regret and try to make amends, but they are also important to put behind you and not let it have control of your life.

I guess the upshot is that I am really glad to be 58 years old.  Life has never been better.  There is still temptation, but the benefits of not taking my own path are right in front of me and impossible to deny.  I can hardly wait for 59.

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